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>>>And we are all probably willing to acknowledge that it is a good idea to submit to the authority of our supervisors at work.

Yeah... but our moderns would have a LOT more problem with what the text actually says, eh? That slaves should submit to their masters?? Methinks that passage is a LOT more problematic nowadays than the wives/husbands one :)

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>>willing obedience from the one submitting and willing sacrifice from the one being submitted to.

Fascinating parallel. Not one that would come to my mind. We have, what, at least five distinct relationships covered here? Husband/wife, parent/child (which is two relationships, but who's counting?), master/slave, magistrate/citizen, elder/parishoner.

I would have said that the contrast was 'willing obedience' (and, indeed, more than mere obedience) vs 'Godly leadership'. So in the husband/wife the husband is to 'wash... holy... blameless' In the case of fathers 'provoke not... bring them up... admonition of the Lord', and for masters 'forebearing threatening' (and, in other passages, other things), magistrate/citizen we read the magistrate is not to bear the sword in vain, but to execute wrath on those who do evil, and in the case of elders, to teach and exhort and discipline vis a vis sin.

The idea of willing sacrifice seems much less clear for most of those relationships, and only part of the husband/wife one.

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